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DefinedMeaning talk:Abkhazia (417363)

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The German definition does not mention that it is 'de facto' independent, Malafaya 10:47, 23 January 2009 (EST)

It has been added to this category for attention. Thank you for your patience.


Since its creation the definition speaks of Abkhazia as being a "de facto autonome Region", which in my opinion is a perfectly valid translation of "de facto independent region". Therefore I am not sure what exactly you mean. Is it that you think "autonom" is not the correct translation for "independent"? Would "unabhängig" be better? Dh 22:04, 26 October 2009 (UTC)

But now that I think of it, there are several things that might be wrong. The Englisch definition says:

A region in the Caucasus which is a de facto independent state of Georgia not recognized internationally.

which is translated to German as:

Region im Kaukaus und de facto autonome Republik Georgiens, die nicht international anerkannt ist.

Now, firstly and obviously, "Kaukaus" is a typo and should be "Kaukasus". Then I am not sure if the English sentence is correct since it speaks of "state of Georgia" which, since Georgia is a country, would translate to "Bundesland Georgiens". But then "independent" and "not recognized internationally" doesn't make much sense. My guess is that Abkhazia is a de facto independent state (in the sense of country = Land) in the caucasus region but since this is internationally not recognized it is considered to be a state (in the sense of subdivision of a state/country = Bundesland) of Georgien. Thus the english defintion would be wrong as well and a native or near professional speaker should word it to reflect the facts correctly. But for that, the facts would first to be set straight: Is Abkhazia a "independent republic", internationally recognized or not? What is meant with "independent state of Georgien"? Wouldn't it be more correct to speak of it as "independent country/state in the caucasus" which is internationally not recognized and therefore treated as a "state of Georgia"? Dh 22:32, 26 October 2009 (UTC)