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DefinedMeaning talk:fingere (510227)

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"To make believe what in reality is not." is rather the meaning of "to deceive" (defined in Omegawiki as "Cause someone to believe an untruth."), while the word "to deceive" is not here, and the word "to pretend" also apply to attempts to deceive, whether successful or not, and to doubtful statements, which might be true. I doubt there is an expression in English, French or Spanish meaning exactly "To make believe what in reality is not.". Moreover, with such a broad definition, we should be careful with definitions since in many languages there are different words and grammatical construction depending on whether the subject of the subordinate clause is the same as the subject of the main clause or not. "He pretends to be a doctor." but "He pretends that his brother is a doctor.". In French, "faire semblant de" only applies if the 3 following conditions are met: the 2 subjects are the same, the attempt to deceive is intentional, and the way to try to deceive is not a mere statement (if it is verbal, we use "mentir": to lie.). I suggest as definition: "To intentionally make oneself appear to do or be doing something whithout actually doing it.", and I would replace the English "pretend" by "pretend to". 13:29, 10 January 2012 (UTC)

  • I agree to your objection. The proposed definition could be shortened a little, perhaps? "To make oneself appear to do or be doing something" should be enough, the extra words seem redundant to me. --InfoCan 16:45, 17 April 2012 (CEST)