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In all the languages I know, "new" also qualifies recently begun periods, such as "new year"/"nouvel an"/"año nuevo". --Fiable.biz 05:37, 17 May 2011 (UTC)
- Do you mean we should change the definition to "Recently made, created, or begun."? (It would be fine for me). --Kip 07:11, 17 May 2011 (UTC)
- Yes. I'm even wondering if this would be enough. "New born"/"Nouveau-né" (meaning "newly" or "recently born", not "recently made", "recently created" or "recently begun") doesn't work in all languages but possibly the list "made, created, begun" would still be too short. I need to think a bit. Meanwhile, I add "begun". --Fiable.biz 06:39, 18 May 2011 (UTC)
- I don't think that "new born" should be included in the scope of that definition. It is a phrase (locution) that is not equal to new + born (a born that is new?). As you say, it is a contraction of newly, but I think this contraction is only used in "new born" or at least in some limited cases. If at all, "new" with that meaning would deserve a separate entry (dm). --Kip 08:34, 18 May 2011 (UTC)
- But has "your new boss"/"votre nouveau patron" or your "new brother-in-law" recently been made? or created? or begun? Similarly, "your new flat" can just mean that it is new for you, not necessarily that it has been built recently. Would "Recently made, created, begun, entered into one's present function, ownership or other relation or taken up one's post." (I'm not sure "to enter into function, ownership or other relation" is good English, for a flat, for instance.) be large enough a definition? --Fiable.biz 09:32, 18 May 2011 (UTC)