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DefinedMeaning talk:vrede (153952)

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This article (vrede (153952)) needs attention because:
The Definition "A feeling of very strong irritation." is imho too unspecific. It needs to make deu:Wut, eng:rage, eng:anger, deu:Zorn, eng:inflammation, eng:passion, eng:bewilderment, eng:irritation, eng:astonishemnt, etc, distinguishable. See altenate DM for an idea of a more explanatory wording which is hopefully fine to translate, too --Purodha Blissenbach 23:27, 14 September 2006 (CEST)
It has been added to this category for attention. Thank you for your patience.

I don't know German, but, as far as I know, in English "inflammation", "passion", "bewilderment" and "astonishment" are not irritations, and "irritation" is not, per se, "very strong". So the only difference we have to make is between "anger" and "rage", which is a difference in intensity. In some languages, this difference is only expressed by an adjective of intensity, so that using the word "anger" in the definition would make the definition tautological in such languages.

Moreover, the ire is not only the feeling of irritation, which is internal, but its state. One can have a strong feeling without expressing it. I propose to merge your alternative definition with the existing one, in "A feeling of very strong irritation and its manifestation, intense anger (usually on an epic scale).". 05:24, 13 February 2011 (UTC)