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Expression talk:proud

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"satisfied" is insufficient to describe the feeling of pride. How about "Feeling greatly honoured, pleased, or satisfied by something or someone that is highly honorable or creditable to oneself"? --InfoCan 20:18, 31 March 2012 (CEST)

I am ok with "satisfied" not being sufficient to describe pride.
However, I'd like to keep the notion of "achievement" in the definition. For me, you are always "proud" about something that you (or your son or anybody) achieved (and which usually is not particularly easy to achieve, which is why you are proud). Or maybe you have an example where this does not fit? --Kip 21:25, 31 March 2012 (CEST)
Isn't achievement something that is honorable, and therefore cause for being proud? --InfoCan 21:36, 31 March 2012 (CEST)
Hmm... maybe... ;-). I am not sure. If I achieve level 10 on Tetris, and I am proud of that (I was when I was 8...), would that mean that achieving level 10 is (highly) honorable? (this is a honest question, I don't know, because for me "honorable" is one of those strange words for which the definition is a bit blurry).
Concerning your definition, for me it sounds strange that honoured/honorable are both used. "feeling greatly honoured [...] by something that is highly honorable [...]" sounds a bit redundant. --Kip 21:47, 31 March 2012 (CEST)
You are right. Succees in Tetris does not make you feel "honored", but I'd say it makes you feel "pleased" or "satisfied" for something "creditable to yourself". In other cases, somebody might feel proud of receiving a prize or of being praised, then the reason for feeling proud would be to have been honored. And you are right about my definition being redundant, I'll remove one of the "honored"s. How about "Feeling greatly pleased, or satisfied by something or someone that is highly honorable or creditable to oneself" ?
Ok! --Kip 09:53, 1 April 2012 (CEST)
I suppose some people can be proud of not their achievement but their status (like to be proud to carry a certain last name, or to have an aristocratic title, which may be an honorable thing in their social circle) --InfoCan 21:38, 31 March 2012 (CEST)
This is true. I did not think of that. --Kip 21:48, 31 March 2012 (CEST)
Actually I just looked it up, this turns out to be another meaning of "proud": "having, proceeding from, or showing a high opinion of one's own dignity, importance, or superiority. " [1] --InfoCan 00:07, 1 April 2012 (CEST)
Ok, so, extra DM? We should probably add example sentences for the two definitions so that the difference is clear. --Kip 09:53, 1 April 2012 (CEST)
Done. I leave the French translations to you. --InfoCan 22:08, 5 April 2012 (CEST)