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This article (queen) needs attention because:
DMs in discussion below. —Celestianpower Háblame 17:36, 21 July 2006 (CEST)
It has been added to this category for attention. Thank you for your patience.

Inadequate DMs[edit]

A female monarch

Not all female monarchs are queens. Does it matter ?-- Purodha Blissenbach 17:00, 21 July 2006 (CEST)

Would the addition of ; the female equivalent of a king improve matters?--Sannab 17:11, 21 July 2006 (CEST)

I think so, because it clarifies the rank, and that's what is different for the other female monarchs.

Should we also define king as the male equivalent of queen? In a way this kind of definition is very intuitive, but can also create "loop" definitions. --Mikalaari 18:45, 19 September 2006 (CEST)
The wife of a king

Not every spouse of king is necessarily a queen. Does it matter ?-- Purodha Blissenbach 17:00, 21 July 2006 (CEST)

Are you referring to concubines, or are there other types of non-queen kingly spouses I am not aware of? --Sannab 17:11, 21 July 2006 (CEST)
Concubines are not married, not my point. I am not knowledgeable in matters of nobles, only recall that Prince Phillip (not King Phillip) is married to Queen Elizabeth of England. I assume the same situation to be possible with genders swapped. -- Purodha Blissenbach 00:03, 22 July 2006 (CEST)
Seems like Purodha has a point here. --Mikalaari 18:45, 19 September 2006 (CEST)
Not really. Since "king" is considered a higher-ranking title than "queen", it is customary (nowadays at least) that the husband of a female monarch does not receive that title. When the monarch is male, there is no such problem. I am not aware of any king whose lawful wife did not get the title "queen", though a possible exception in the future might be Camilla Parker-Bowles. 22 September 2006
A playing card with a picture of a queen on its face; the 12th card in a given suit

There are decks/playing rules where Queen is not at position 12, there's not always a Queens picture. I'd suggest to add "usually", or "customarily". -- Purodha Blissenbach 17:00, 21 July 2006 (CEST)

I think this makes sense.--Sannab 17:11, 21 July 2006 (CEST)
I agree with the first 2, but even when they aren't pictures of queens, in my experience, they are still called queens, since all of the rulebooks say queen and usually, it is a queen. Thanks! —Celestianpower Háblame 17:07, 21 July 2006 (CEST)
That is what I wanted to point out. -- Purodha Blissenbach 00:20, 22 July 2006 (CEST)
Maybe it can be simply stated that it is a playing card associated to (the rank, power of) queen. Splitting up this DM into two could be also considered. --Mikalaari 18:45, 19 September 2006 (CEST)