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Suggest you merge professional and native since it is hard to differentiate. Many so-called "native" speakers cannot write or express themselves clearly and "non native" users often speak better English than native-born speakers.

Native really does not mean anything in this context. The ratings should be by level, not related to which language you first learned as your mother tongue.

There is a clear distinction between native and professional. Many people who use a language professionaly are signicantly better technically in using that language. The instinctive choise of words is however decidedly different. People can tell where people come from just by observing their use of languages.
The Babel "levels" are not necesarily all levels. Only 1 to 4 are true levels. Native and professional express something different entirely. GerardM 09:21, 18 August 2006 (CEST)

I think that people misunderstand what native means. It does not mean that it is perfect, far from it. It means that this is the language learned as a child. It does imply an intuitive grasp of the language it does not mean that it is perfect. Often people who learned the language later in life are technically more correct than the majority of the people who speak and write the language natively. GerardM 10:22, 4 January 2007 (EST)