Talk:Part of speech/jpn

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Hi there!

I am not much of a linguist, so this looks all right to me. I wonder if it is possible to add subcategories, it would perhaps be nice to be able to classify 動詞 as

• 五段
• 上一段
• 下一段.

Another problem is whether 代名詞 should be a subcategory to 名詞 or not present at all... Gon-no-suke 01:43, 27 February 2007 (EST)

If I understand it right, subcategories are not supported by the database software yet. But it can't hurt to have them ready when the software allows to add them, so I'll make a second, expanded table when I have the time.

代名詞 (pronouns) should be a separate category to keep in line with most other languages, although they are non-inflecting like Japanese nouns and you're right that it is technically not necessary to treat them as a separate word type.

You could add them on the same level from the beginning and let users choose if they want to be specific. Gon-no-suke 23:02, 27 February 2007 (EST)

The only tricky one is the type 連体詞 (Rentaishi), I've found several translations for the term and I'll try to check with a few experts which one should be used.

Apart from that, could you help with Swedish translations of the terms? --Mkill 21:04, 27 February 2007 (EST)

There was an entry in Duden for [Adnomen]. There is also some data on [this page], but I dont know how linguistically accurate they are. Gon-no-suke 23:02, 27 February 2007 (EST)

I have feedback from the j-studien mailing list, and I got feedback from an author who wrote a German book about Japanese grammar (Jens Rickmeyer), where he said he prefers the term "Adnomen" for the new version of his book. So I consider that one settled.

And thank you for the link with the table, it looks good and I think we can work with this one.

The only issue I still have is the two types of adjective. I've seen several terms for these now, and after some consideration I prefer "i-djective" and "na-adjective". Sure, it may sound a little too much like elementary school and lack "academic credit", but these two are easily understandable to everyone. And easy-to-use for the average contributor is what we should aim for. --Mkill 10:33, 5 March 2007 (EST)