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ErrorMsg[edit]

Ciao Kip,

I got a message there is an offset wrong om nitrogen. Can you solve this, plz? TIA,  Klaas `Z4␟` V:  14:21, 1 February 2017 (CET)
Done :) --Kip (talk) 18:39, 1 February 2017 (CET)
Great! Where we would be without you? On a happier note On twitter we just got our 173th follower. After some ups and downs half year ago we're only rising. Slowly but certainly.  Klaas `Z4␟` V:  20:09, 1 February 2017 (CET)
We just reached 200 followers; a milestone by the end of this year :-D Happy New Year!  Klaas `Z4␟` V:  14:06, 26 December 2017 (CET)
Hej, very cool :) Sj (talk) 11:24, 22 April 2018 (CEST)

Polyglot Extension Questions[edit]

Hello Kipcool

I've found out that you were a maintainer of Polyglot extension https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Polyglot

I have some doubts about the basic interaction and use of the extension, I've placed here: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Topic:Txbx9196ap25usvx

Since you may know the main purpose of the extension, can you explain me a little bit about it?

Thanks in advance. Regards SirLouen

SQL help[edit]

Hi, I'm trying to make an educational video game for learning foreign languages and I'm just not smart enough to figure out how to pull what I need from the database. If you feel like helping me with this, I'd gladly send you a $25 gift card to amazon or pay pal or whatever. I need a view(?) or table with each row being a word and columns of their foreign language equivalent (if available). I have the lexical database downloaded and set up and just need the SQL command. Thanks for your consideration!

Hi, I can help with this but please wait until the new year when I am back from holidays. It is a bit complicated with a smartphone only.
in the meantime could you have a look at these multilingual files that we generated at some point http://dictionarymid.sourceforge.net/dictionaries/dictsMultilingualsOmegaWiki.html , I can generated fresh ones but if that is the format you need, we already have the suitable sql query somewhere.
I would do this for free of course, I don't need the money incentive, but I am happy when our data is being used.

Partners[edit]

See GerardM's tP (in Dutch - if that's unclear ask me ;-D Klaas `Z4␟` V:  11:15, 13 October 2018 (CEST)

Do not see picture[edit]

Ciao Kip,

At friendship the pic from Commons seems invisble. What did one do wrong or is it a cache thing? Klaas `Z4␟` V:  11:20, 28 October 2018 (CET)
Apparently it is a problem with the script (our script - which I wrote...) that generates the url adress of the thumb image. It does not look in the correct directory (the directory normally can be automatically deduced from the file name). Probably because of the special characters. I will have a look when I have time :) --Kip (talk) 22:14, 28 October 2018 (CET)
The specialest symbol is IMNSHO the & normally does weird things in many script/markup languages most notable being HTML.
Take your time: we have an informative caption - clickbait as well ;-D
Kind regards from a dreamPark. Klaas `Z4␟` V:  07:22, 29 October 2018 (CET) who is having 14th wedding anniversary today (around noon)
Fixed! You were right it was the & character. --Kip (talk) 21:37, 23 February 2019 (CET)

Adding local varieties to minority languages[edit]

Hi Kipcool, sorry, but it's a long time ago that I myself did this and I cannot remember. Could you please have a look at this question about Swiss German? Thanks!!! --Sabine (talk) 07:10, 8 November 2018 (CET)

Time to learn something new. I just added the city of Coburg which would be another variety of Main Franconian. How can I add Coburg as a local variety so that it appears under "area"? Is there a how-to somewhere? And really I want to be able to do this myself in case it is needed. Cheers :-))) --Sabine (talk) 19:14, 14 November 2018 (CET)
I don't think we did a how-to, but I should, each time a question is asked I can just copy-paste somewhere (but where?)
So, to do it, you have to
  1. find the expression corresponding to the language => Expression:Main-Franconian
  2. edit the page (or the DM), obviously :)
  3. At the bottom there is a section "class attributes" (between class and collections)
  4. There you will find "area". At the corresponding rightmost column you can add more areas.
Voila :) So, where do we copy/paste that? --Kip (talk) 21:06, 14 November 2018 (CET)
Thank you so much! Do we have a "how-to" section somewhere? It is fairly weird, that I don't even know that ... Well we do have the Help-section - maybe we should create an additional section there? --Sabine (talk) 20:44, 15 November 2018 (CET)
Everything is have is normally under the Help page that you found.
It was mostly written by me, but I wrote only how-to for standard users (like Help:Editing annotations), not for functionalities that can only be performed by bureaucrats.
So we could add a subsection in Help:Index containing only help for bureaucrats and admins. --Kip (talk) 21:54, 15 November 2018 (CET)
Probably this is the most logical place for this. Btw. as for download/upload: there is the script we used for the University of Bamberg stuff (see special pages) and one works with .csv - maybe this can be of help? --Sabine (talk) 06:46, 16 November 2018 (CET)
Yes true! I never used it myself, but I think it worked well.

Languages with a Wikipedia we seem not to support yet or have another name?[edit]

Just added a few here; perhaps more to come sooner or later. Klaas `Z4␟` V:  15:12, 2 December 2018 (CET)

Thanks! We should consider if we want do add them, or why we didn't.
Btw, this page where you added it is an automatically generated page. When we click on the special page for updating the language names and translations, this page gets overwritten. So it would be best to move it to another page, such as Help:Language/List or Help:Language/Checklist_for_editable_languages
Or create another subpage Help:Language/Probably_Missing or something... --Kip (talk) 20:55, 5 December 2018 (CET)

For the moment I stored them here  Klaas `Z4␟` V:  18:10, 7 December 2018 (CET)

Thanks --Kip (talk) 23:26, 8 December 2018 (CET)

Any time. Next step is to support them so we are on our way to have almost 650 editable languages Klaas `Z4␟` V:  12:22, 9 December 2018 (CET)

This means we need people who know these languages ... hmmmm ... --Sabine (talk) 21:24, 16 December 2018 (CET)
Best way to find them IMNSHO is via Wikimedia Foundation. Klaas `Z4␟` V:  10:41, 17 December 2018 (CET)

Adding links to outside ressources[edit]

I am wondering if we can add more than only "commons" in the link section. That is for example to pixabay.com (CC-0 pictures) and/or to openclipart.org. Commons with all these different licenses takes too much time to handle images. I am choosing the IYIL-pictures from pixabay, simply because it is easier to find them and no hassle to use them. Days unfortunately only have 24 hours ... :-) --Sabine (talk) 07:56, 1 March 2019 (CET)

So you want the possibility to add a link (that's easy), but do you also want the picture to display on the right? (that's a bit more work - some more javascript). --Kip (talk) 09:23, 1 March 2019 (CET)

New languages[edit]

There are plenty of languages we do not have on OW, but where there is data we can add. Now I would go the way to say: all languages where we do have an ISO 639-3 code are simply added. I had a look into ISO 639-6 - it simply gets too much - we can add this distinction in the "area" part, like we will deal with Lombard etc. Only Main-Franconian would be one variation for each village ... that simply doesn't make sense - then again: many villages share a huge part of the Terminology. If there are people who wish to contribute in this way: they may take the time to edit. The terms are simply treated as synonyms. Adding areas as we need them IMHO is not a problem.

As to adding the data: do I use the language messenger adding only the language name + ISO 639-3 code? If yes, I could care about this.--Sabine (talk) 09:53, 1 March 2019 (CET)

Yes you can add with Special:Languages with just language name and ISO 639-3 the rest can stay empty.
If you have a language with several scripts (e.g. Latin + Cyrillic), it gets a bit more complicated so you could leave these out for now.
When you have added all the languages you want, give me a quick notice and I will regenerate the page Help:language id List. I will also try to include the iso codes in that list. --Kip (talk) 10:05, 1 March 2019 (CET)
All languages missing up to now have been added. I should need the IDs for these languages now, so that I can add the numbers and we can then add these to the import script. Once that is done, I will re-start over with the import of the various wiktionary entries for the 100 words. I will try out the lgs-importscript this evening :-) --Sabine (talk) 21:01, 1 March 2019 (CET)
lgs-import does not show up - I suppose it is blocked for now :-) - no probs, there is plenty of stuff to do ... --Sabine (talk) 21:11, 1 March 2019 (CET)
lgs-import: I have not yet decided what to do with all languages, but you can try it of course. I would prefer that it is only available to you (and me), at least for now, so I put it in your personal javascript file (maybe refresh cache Ctrl Shift R).
languages, about 30 more :) - I regenerated Help:language id List, now it also shows our iso639-3 code, and is sorted by that code. --Kip (talk) 21:21, 1 March 2019 (CET)
Thank you! --Sabine (talk) 21:28, 1 March 2019 (CET)
Could you plese re-create Help:language id List again? There are some lines I apparently missed or that I tried to add, but did not get saved (probably connectivity problems). I will re-check the last language IDs again then. --Sabine (talk) 21:51, 1 March 2019 (CET)
Done --Kip (talk) 21:55, 1 March 2019 (CET)
Thank you! Checked the language IDs for the script. NN :-) --Sabine (talk) 23:07, 1 March 2019 (CET)
I have added all of them :) --Kip (talk) 00:03, 2 March 2019 (CET)
Thank you! --Sabine (talk) 18:41, 2 March 2019 (CET)
Good morning! - well, it is getting funny ... I just re-imported airplane and again we do have new languages. Well, have to work now ... I will look into this a bit later. --Sabine (talk) 09:20, 4 March 2019 (CET)
Then you have seen (or will see) that in the output window, I added a button "click here to add" to insert the translations to be checked manually. It works quite nice and then it deletes the line from the output.
In the airplane translations there are a few Chinese languages that are missing in OW. --Kip (talk) 09:25, 4 March 2019 (CET)
That is definitely fun while working :-))) --Sabine (talk)
Could you please re-create the pabe Help:language id List? I added all that was new for the first term of my list and before going ahead with the next one, I would like to add the relevant bits to your wiktionary import script. ThanK you!!! :-) Maybe there is a way how I could create this list myself? That is without installing whatsoever on my computer?--Sabine (talk) 07:03, 28 March 2019 (CET)
I recreated the list.
I have added a bunch of languages recently as well (many from fr.wikt), so it is nice to have an updated version.
Don't know if you can create the list yourself. Currently I connect to the server (you need ssh and you need the password, I don't think you have an account on the server) and run a sql query (you need the sql password as well). Currently I can't think of another method. --Kip (talk) 13:50, 28 March 2019 (CET)
Thank you!!! So I will need to ask you every now and then. Well, there will be always less languages to add. I will now add the ones missing to your script. I will have a look at the Spanish wiktionary as well - we never know if there are languages of South America we can cover better from there. --Sabine (talk) 13:58, 28 March 2019 (CET)
I added another group of languages. When you have a moment, could you please re-create the list? Then I go ahead with the next terms to complete. Thank you and have a nice Sunday! --Sabine (talk) 14:24, 31 March 2019 (CEST)
Done! Wiktionary claims to have 3900 languages... we still have a long way to go :( --Kip (talk) 16:43, 31 March 2019 (CEST)